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00:00:51 KC Yost
Hello, everyone, and welcome to this episode of the Energy Pipeline Podcast. Today, we're continuing our series on Pipeliners Associations throughout the United States, and are fortunate to have Shelby Campbell and Jessica Dexter from the Permian Basin Association of Pipeliners as our guests. Welcome to the Energy Pipeline Podcast, ladies.

00:01:10 Shelby Campbell
Thank you for having us.

00:01:11 Jessica Dexter
Thank you so much. We're excited to be here.

00:01:14 KC Yost
Great. We're excited to have you here. Before we get started talking about the association, would each of you take a few minutes to share your background with our listeners? Shelby, you want to go ahead and start?

00:01:26 Shelby Campbell
Sure thing. My name is Shelby Campbell. I am born and raised in Midland, Texas. I am the first of five children from the Flat family, so I was Shelby Flat. I got married last year and became Shelby Campbell. I graduated from Midland Christian in 2014, and then I went to quite a few different colleges, just finding what I wanted to do, where I wanted to be. I graduated from Lubbock Christian University in 2017, and then I started in the oil field. I came back home to Midland, and I've been in it ever since 2017.

00:01:58 KC Yost
Great, and what do you do in the business?

00:02:02 Shelby Campbell
Currently, I'm a business developer for a pipeline construction company, which is the most ideal job I could ever picture for myself.

00:02:11 KC Yost
Yeah, you and I need to have conversations about WHC. I can tell you some good stories about George Crane 40 some odd years ago.

00:02:18 Shelby Campbell
Yes, sir.

00:02:20 KC Yost
Okay. Anyway, Jessica, a little bit of your background, please?

00:02:25 Jessica Dexter
My name is Jessica Dexter, formerly Jessica Gray up until I got married. I was born and raised in Bakersfield, California. My parents moved there from Odessa in 1990 and raised us there. I went to school at Fresno State University, and I graduated in 2014. Wasn't really sure what I wanted to do, had an internship with Oxy, and started working there, and that brought me out to Midland in 2017. From there, I decided I really enjoyed safety, became a safety tech and HSE director for some pipeline companies. Now that I have moved to the Dallas/Fort Worth area, I have my own consulting business, where I help oil and gas service companies with their DOT compliance and their HSE compliance.

00:03:26 KC Yost
With the new FINSA rule and all of that, I'm sure that keeps you quite busy.

00:03:31 Jessica Dexter
I stay very busy. It's like I feel like I'm juggling all day every day.

00:03:37 KC Yost
Well, great. Well, thank you both for joining us. I'm very excited to talk about this organization. The Permian Basin Association of Pipeliners is one of the relatively new pipeliners organizations. Can you all talk about when you decided to put the organization together?

00:04:00 Shelby Campbell
Yes, sir. In 2019, it was right around August. It was towards the end of the year. We started the Permian Basin Association of Pipeliners, which is a 501(c)(6). Of course, we wanted to grow the organization, but we noticed that the(c)(6) that we had formed, it says donations were not tax-deductible, and that you could not give grants. We kind of wanted to upgrade, if you will, to a 501(c)(3) organization, which is what we did in February of '21. We became the Permian Pipeliners Education Foundation, which is a 501(c)(3). We did that in February, and it worked out really well for us because we were able to be more charitable towards the... There it was. Towards the other nonprofits in the community and the grants. Then we ended up growing since then to the Delaware Basin Association of Pipeliners. We started that separate branch in September of 2023. Now, the Permian Basin Association of Pipeliners and the Delaware Basin Association of Pipeliners both report to the board of the Permian Pipeliners Education Foundation. We're doing business under the 501(c)(3).

00:05:14 KC Yost
Wow. Basically, a bunch of pipeliners in the Midland Odessa area said they were tired of having to drive all the way to San Antonio or to Houston, or to Tulsa or OKC, to pipeliners meetings, and decided to form their own group.

00:05:33 Shelby Campbell
Yes, sir.

00:05:33 KC Yost
Is that what I'm understanding?

00:05:35 Shelby Campbell
That's what happened.

00:05:37 KC Yost
Because there are more oil wells than people out in West Texas, you decided to expand into southeastern New Mexico?

00:05:47 Shelby Campbell
We did. We had actually an operator/business owner that reached out to us and asked us to host a lunch in Kermit for all the industry employees who couldn't make it to the Midland lunches or events. At that first meeting, we had 47 people show up. We saw the need for more organization in even more West, and we started hosting luncheons in Carlsbad, in Kermit, in Hobbs. We had a very successful golf tournament, and now I think this is our third year having a tournament there in Hobbs.

00:06:18 KC Yost
Wow. I hear of these pipeliners organizations that'll have hundreds and hundreds of people attend meetings, and I know of other organizations like Louisiana that will hold their meetings at different locations, just to get around the state and get things done, but to have separate chapters under the same umbrella, you're a first. That's pretty darn cool. I'm impressed.

00:06:46 Shelby Campbell
Thank you.

00:06:47 KC Yost
Yeah.

00:06:48 Shelby Campbell
It's worked out really well for us. I know that one day, we want to branch off and have the two separate organizations, but so many of the Permian folks don't mind driving to New Mexico. That's where most of our work is, and same for the New Mexico people driving to Texas. We are kind of sharing assets, sharing contacts, sharing sponsorships.

00:07:10 KC Yost
Well, when I was working in Pecos, it was just as easy a drive for me to go up to Carlsbad as it was to Midland to catch a flight back to Houston. If I was flying.

00:07:24 Shelby Campbell
Yes, sir.

00:07:24 KC Yost
If I was flying, yeah. Okay. Well, great. With the two groups, how many members do you have?

00:07:33 Jessica Dexter
Our membership total right now, we have 459 people that are members between the Permian Basin and the Delaware Basin organizations, with 174 of those people being Delaware only or sharing a Delaware/Permian membership. This is the first year we actually offered some different membership options. We've always had the individual or the corporate sponsorship option, but this year, we offer Permian individual, Permian corporate, Delaware individual, Delaware corporate, or you can be an individual or corporate member of both organizations.

00:08:20 KC Yost
What's the difference between an individual and a corporate membership?

00:08:25 Jessica Dexter
An individual membership is for one person from any organization that says, "I want to be a member and reap the benefits of membership," whereas the corporate sponsorship comes from any company that would like to be involved. It gets their logo on our website, it gets their logo on our sponsorship banners that hang up at all of our events, and it allows for four individual memberships under that corporate umbrella.

00:08:54 KC Yost
Okay. A corporate membership allows four individuals from that corporation to attend the meeting, and the fifth and sixth person just pay their own way or put it on an expense account, or whatever the case, correct?

00:09:08 Jessica Dexter
Yes.

00:09:10 KC Yost
Huh. Very cool. Are there any bylaws that require you to have 50% of the membership being from operating companies like we have it in Houston? We've got it set up where 50% of the membership has to either be from an operating company or an engineering firm, and then the other 50% can be from contractors or vendors. Do you have such a rule?

00:09:35 Jessica Dexter
We do not have anything in our bylaws that determine what type, or what background, or what organization type the member is from. We like to have operators involved. We enjoy having the engineering firms involved, but as we're trying to grow this organization, and it's still kind of in its infancy stage, it's just the fifth year, we're not being too picky about the organization type, but we are doing our best to attract members and memberships from these operating companies. In 2022, we added the individual operator membership option, which did help bringing in some of those midstream, upstream, and downstream companies.

00:10:29 KC Yost
Excellent, excellent. Well, it sounds like you guys are well on your way. Hopefully in another 50 some odd years, when you're as old as the Houston pipeliners, you'll tell us all about the growing pains that you went through. Sorry, I got to plug my local group, right?

00:10:50 Jessica Dexter
Absolutely.

00:10:50 KC Yost
Not to take away from you guys. Okay. Let's talk about the purpose of the organization. I know you guys have got a really solid website, and it talks about all your missions, and your purpose, and all of that kind of thing. Can you elaborate on that for us, please?

00:11:09 Shelby Campbell
The Permian Basin Education Foundation is the 501(c)(3) charitable organization that provides peer-to-peer networking for professionals involved in the pipeline and oil and gas-related industries. We host golf tournaments, clay shoots, Christmas dinner, fundraisers, and luncheons in order to raise money for our three main givebacks, which are scholarships for students with science, technology, engineering, and math degrees, grants for local colleges, universities, and trade schools, and other local nonprofit and community improvement efforts. Our goal with these scholarships and grants is to prepare students for future careers in STEM-related degrees related to pipeline and oil and gas-related industries, to bring them back to the Permian, and to get them back working at the companies that we work for.

00:12:09 KC Yost
Great, great. I assume you also work really hard to promote pipelining in the area, and talk to different people about pipelines are really the safest way of transporting energy versus a truck or a train, that type of conversation?

00:12:30 Shelby Campbell
Yes, sir. We've had some of our speakers at luncheons. We've had a debate between the Railroad Commissioners, and then our next luncheon actually is a speaker from the Texas 811 Group, talking about safe digging.

00:12:44 KC Yost
Good. You say you had a debate between Railroad Commissioners?

00:12:50 Shelby Campbell
Yes.

00:12:52 Jessica Dexter
Yes. In 2020-

00:12:53 KC Yost
Yeah, let's go down that rabbit hole for a minute. Tell me all about that.

00:12:59 Jessica Dexter
In 2022, was the Railroad Commissioner Election, and so we decided to host a debate between the candidates that were running. We had them come to The Horseshoe in Midland, and we set them up panel style and asked questions, and allowed all the attending members to hear the different sides. It was broadcasted on another podcast. We had the local news outlets there, and we tried to get as many local community members and organizations as possible to come and just hear out the different sides, and hear the arguments from the different commissioner candidates.

00:13:43 KC Yost
Wow, that sounds great. Do you want to talk about community involvement and actually providing a public service to the community, I bet that went over really, really well.

00:13:56 Jessica Dexter
It really did. It allowed me to, and everyone in attendance, to hear different perspectives. In Midland, the political climate is concentrated in one certain direction for the most part, generally speaking. A candidate with an opposing political view also attended. It was just nice and kind of refreshing, I think, to hear from the different sides. I know I went home and did some more digging and some more research where I normally may not have.

00:14:37 KC Yost
I think that's great. I think the world needs to do a little bit more talking to each other instead of at each other. That sounded pretty cool. Are you guys planning on doing the same thing in 2024 now? Still early in the year.

00:14:53 Jessica Dexter
We don't have anything scheduled for this year. With the addition of DBAP, again, we share a lot of the same sponsors and members, and so in an effort to not overdo the amount of events that we're having collectively, we've had to narrow down to where we just have one event per month between the two organizations, just so people aren't overwhelmed, and so that we can have equal representation and attendance for each division.

00:15:36 KC Yost
Super, super, super. Totally understand that, makes perfect sense. Let's see. Shelby, I think you were mentioning something about charitable work in the organizations? Can you guys elaborate a little bit on the charitable work and what the organizations do? You mentioned scholarships, we talked about community service and other activities.

00:16:02 Jessica Dexter
Yeah. Again, the main focus of PPEF, which is the 501(c)(3), that both the Permian Basin and the Delaware Basin Association of Pipeliners report back to, our main objective is to host these really fun networking events that bring in as much money as possible, so we can give back in the forms of grants and scholarships, and in community improvement efforts or other local nonprofits. We like to partner with a couple of other nonprofits in the area whose vision either aligns with ours, or who just request additional help. We like to give extra money there. Last year in November, we partnered with 311 Ministries, who provide a variety of services for underprivileged and underserved children in our area. We went and we helped fill Santa bags. We had wish lists from different children in the area, and all of these donated coats, and blankets, and Christmas items. We filled these stockings and Santa bags for hundreds of families last year to give them at Christmastime to help make their Christmas a little bit less burdensome, and a little bit more magical.

00:17:31 KC Yost
That's wonderful. That's wonderful. Did I understand you to say that the scholarships were earmarked for STEM students?

00:17:44 Jessica Dexter
Yes. In 2022, we had budgeted and allocated a certain amount of our monies to go towards scholarships, and we did not have enough students apply for scholarships. We ended up giving that extra money to endowments in universities. Basically, we are begging, asking people to apply for these scholarships. There is a rubric and a metric that applicants need to meet, and preferential treatment and priority goes to STEM students in an effort to further support the industry.

00:18:30 KC Yost
Does the sponsor need to be a member of the Permian Group?

00:18:37 Jessica Dexter
In order to apply for a scholarship or to qualify for a scholarship, you have to be a family member of an active member in either the Permian or the Delaware Basin. That can be a grandparent, a parent, an aunt, an uncle, a sister, any family member. You just have to have a family member that's an active member of the organization.

00:19:10 KC Yost
I was the chairman of the Scholarship Committee here in Houston 20 some odd years ago, and I had two very interesting applicants. One was a member who had his wife apply for a scholarship, and the other was a young man whose mother was deciding to go back to school and applied. Family is family, isn't it?

00:19:42 Jessica Dexter
Yep. I think that's really cool. I actually, in our grants, we give to the trade schools and the local colleges and universities, I have taken some continuing education classes in environmental remediation and in DOT management, and applied for a scholarship for some of those local three-day classes, and because of the grants we gave to those colleges, was able to get a scholarship for those classes myself too.

00:20:14 KC Yost
Good. Let's talk a little bit about the grants as well. How do you select where you award grants?

00:20:24 Jessica Dexter
Again, we don't have... It's been pretty simple for our grant committee to kind of divvy up those funds. There's not an overabundance of applications. We have our colleges and universities that frequently apply, and frequently show up and support our organization. The application process is completing our grant application, and from there, our Grant Committee makes those selections and determines the total amount.

00:21:05 KC Yost
Oh, excellent. That sounds like a great way of handling things. I'm impressed. That works out well. Good. Anything else we want to talk about charitable organization, or we'll move into talking about the meeting locations, and times, and all of that kind of thing? No? All right, let's-

00:21:27 Jessica Dexter
I think we're good to talk events. Yeah.

00:21:27 KC Yost
Yeah. Let's talk about the meetings. When do you hold your meetings? How often, and what are the typical subjects that you discuss?

00:21:37 Jessica Dexter
Like I said, we've this year tried to really, instead of having a Permian and a Delaware meeting each month, we did that last year, and it kind of got to be a lot for members who wanted to be involved with both organizations. This year, we split the calendar to kind of go back and forth between the Permian and the Delaware Basin. Both the Permian and the Delaware have golf tournaments once a year. We both have clay shoots. Then we have a combined scholarship dinner in July, where we announce and recognize all of our scholarship recipients, grant recipients, and the local nonprofits that we are able to give money to that year. Then we have a combined Christmas party in December. The rest of the months are divvied up between the two areas, and we have different lunch meetings in different areas just to allow accessibility for everyone.

00:22:39 KC Yost
Excellent. It's a monthly meeting, alternating between Permian and Delaware type arrangement. Do you take the summer off, or is it 12 months a year that you have a meeting?

00:22:51 Jessica Dexter
We meet 12 months a year. We have a couple of big events in the summer, so June 10th is our Permian golf tournament. July 25th will be our Scholarship Grant and Donation Recipient Dinner in Midland. Then September 6th is our clay shoot. We were hesitant about continuing to have monthly meetings in the summer, but we haven't really seen a dramatic decrease in attendance, so we decided to keep them going.

00:23:30 KC Yost
Excellent. Great. Super. Are there any continuing education units for your meetings? I'm an engineer. I'm always looking for ways to get my continuing education taken care of before I spend a whole lot of money.

00:23:47 Jessica Dexter
The way I got more involved with the organization, outside of just being a member who showed up to the occasional monthly meeting, was I assisted a previous boss of mine with our HSE Committee. Within the Permian Basin Association of Pipeliners, we had an HSE Committee, and we met quarterly. We did offer continuing education credits for those meetings. There was a process of selecting a speaker, verifying that it would count as CEU credits, which were provided by Midland College. They would go through, read the biography of the presenter and the material that was being presented, and validate them as continuing education. We did have an upturn in the number of engineers that would attend those quarterly meetings. Unfortunately, we had a difficult time finding someone else to chair that committee when I became the event coordinator. That is something we've offered in the past, and would like to offer in the future if we could find someone that would want to chair that committee.

00:25:09 KC Yost
Understood. Anyone out there listening that wants to volunteer to become the chairman of that committee, give Jessica or Shelby a call.

00:25:18 Jessica Dexter
Please do.

00:25:19 KC Yost
Yes. Great, great, great. Let's get back to the events, then, if you don't mind me, I guess I'm jumping around here a little bit, but you said something about a golf tournament this summer?

00:25:30 Jessica Dexter
Yes. June 10th is our Permian Basin Golf Tournament at Hogan Park in Midland. This event, the registration is open to members only. If a member gets a golf, gets a team, they can have non-members on their team, but in order to register for the event, you do have to be a member. This event historically sells out every year. Last year, we moved it to Hogan to allow us to play two courses for two flights, and we're doing the same thing this year. Last year, that event brought in $150,000, which was huge for our organization. The goal is to bring in even more this year.

00:26:17 KC Yost
This course that you're talking about, you've got two sets of eight teams, and you have a morning flight and an afternoon flight on each of the two courses?

00:26:28 Jessica Dexter
Yes.

00:26:29 KC Yost
Wow. Wow. Well done, well done. Hats off to your golf chairman.

00:26:37 Jessica Dexter
Thank you.

00:26:39 KC Yost
Is that you?

00:26:40 Jessica Dexter
Yes.

00:26:42 KC Yost
Man, what a crowd. That's great. You probably have 500 golfers, don't you?

00:26:49 Jessica Dexter
Yeah, it's a good size tournament. I think last year, we had 104 teams that registered and showed up throughout the course of the day. We have hole sponsors and cooking sponsors, so there's a lot of people out there. We had a lot of volunteers. We do still have sponsorships available. They range in price and in commitment, and we do still need volunteers. If anyone's listening and wants to be involved, all that registration is open and on our website.

00:27:27 KC Yost
Perfect, perfect. You said Sporting Clays was in the fall?

00:27:31 Jessica Dexter
Yes, and-

00:27:31 Shelby Campbell
Yes, sir.

00:27:32 Jessica Dexter
Shelby is the Queen of Clay Shoots.

00:27:35 KC Yost
Okay.

00:27:37 Shelby Campbell
Yes, we've got it at September 6th in the Permian Clay Shoot. This year we're doing it at Windwalker Farms, kind of the same idea as moving to Hogan. We moved to a larger venue that will allow us to have more teams, more sponsorships, and it's just more parking all around. We sold our title sponsorship already, which is fantastic to do it that early in the year, but we still have sponsorships ranging from 1,000 to 4,000. I think we can have up to 60 teams of four. Last year, we had just under 300 shooters, so this year we should have more. Last year, we had 122,000 brought in, and I know for sure this year, we'll have more. It's just great to see for the organization.

00:28:21 KC Yost
Oh, that's amazing. You say you have cookers there as well?

00:28:26 Shelby Campbell
Yes, sir. People love to come out and cook different things, and with us being in the pipeline industry, we have a little bit of crawfish. We have some boudin, we've got the Cajun things that come out, not just the burgers and the hot dogs.

00:28:42 KC Yost
That's great. Let's go to Midland and have some seafood and some Cajun food. I like that. I like that a lot.

00:28:48 Shelby Campbell
Yes, sir.

00:28:48 KC Yost
I like that a lot. Don't tell my cardiologist how much I like boudin, okay? Please don't do that. How about a fishing tournament? Do you guys have a fishing tournament? Is there water out there?

00:29:01 Jessica Dexter
No water.

00:29:02 KC Yost
Not yet. Not yet.

00:29:03 Jessica Dexter
I read somewhere that the Permian Basin or Midland is the largest boat per capita in the United States, but there is not a body of water. I think the closest body of water is two hours away in Lubbock. Fishing tournament would be difficult to pull off.

00:29:26 KC Yost
I think you guys would be set up to have a second golf tournament or a second sporting clays tournament before you start getting into the fishing tournaments. Does that sound safe?

00:29:36 Shelby Campbell
Jessica, you can tell them about the two years that we had team ropings that were successful and fun.

00:29:42 Jessica Dexter
We did. Yeah. We did do a team roping event for two different years. That's been largely successful. The second year we had it, we coupled it with a benefit concert. Again, another event that requires a very passionate and knowledgeable event chairman. I am not knowledgeable in the team roping world. We're always looking to have large events of different varieties. Just looking for someone that is creative and that can act on that creativity, and get something together.

00:30:29 KC Yost
Great, team roping. Never thought of it. Well, that's absolutely West Texas, and pretty exciting stuff. I like that. I like that. Any other big events? You mentioned your Christmas party and that type of thing. You got any other outings besides the golf, and sporting clays, and the team roping?

00:30:55 Jessica Dexter
We're looking forward to doing more volunteer events in November. That is the one month last year, we did not have a meeting. I feel like after Halloween, it's basically, everyone's off until New Year's. It's just Christmas party, and Thanksgiving, and Friendsgiving. We ended up, instead of having a meeting that cost money, that's when we gave up our time. We're also trying to plan, having a family-friendly event. We're looking at doing a color run or a dodge ball tournament, where people can bring out their kids, and their husbands, and their wives, and do a more family-friendly event.

00:31:40 KC Yost
Great. I like that. Thinking out of the box, getting more participation. That's fantastic. Now, we've talked about the events, and we've talked about the charitable work, but we haven't talked about the amount of money that you guys have been donating. You said $150,000 for the golf tournament, and $120,000 for a sporting clays. Surely, you guys are being quite benevolent with 250, $300,000 worth of donations and grants that you're willing to pass out? Does that sound accurate?

00:32:17 Jessica Dexter
Yes. In 2022, we were able to give back a combined $130,000 between the grant scholarships and community improvement. Last year, we gave back $150,000. We do have to hold back some of the monies raised, especially with starting up the Delaware Basin chapter, requires a lot on the financial end as far as giving them a reserve, setting up their website, those types of overhead things, ordering their swag, and that sort of thing.

00:32:55 KC Yost
Sure.

00:32:56 Jessica Dexter
At the beginning of the year, we look at our bank, and we like to budget about 60% of our monies that will go toward these scholarships, grants, and other non-profits.

00:33:14 KC Yost
Wonderful, wonderful. That is really great. Super deal. Super deal. Let's talk about contact information. If someone wants to join the association, if someone wants to come in and volunteer, and take one of these leadership roles to be a chairman of one of these committees, and that type of thing, how can they get in touch with the Permian Basin Association of Pipeliners?

00:33:40 Jessica Dexter
On the website, all of our officers and board members are listed on there. In the Permian, we have our President, Robert Davis, our Vice President, Ms. Shelby Campbell. We have a Secretary, Kelly Elliott. We have a Treasurer, Caitlin Reninger. We have an Admin, Brianna Johnson, and our Membership Chair is Wes Johnson. Our Delaware has fewer officers, again, just because they're growing. There's a president, a vice president, a treasurer, and a membership director there as well. Then there are seven board members that oversee everyone else. All of that contact information, again, is on our website.

00:34:31 KC Yost
That's PermianBasinAP.org?

00:34:34 Jessica Dexter
Yes, sir.

00:34:35 KC Yost
Okay, PermianBasinAP. org. You've heard it from the horse's mouth. That's where you go to join this fine organization, or come in and volunteer, and run a couple of these committees. I'm anxious to see if you get a new chairman to fill that team roping event. That'd be pretty cool. I'll come out and watch that. I'm semi-retired, I can do stuff like that now.

00:35:02 Jessica Dexter
We'd love to have you.

00:35:04 KC Yost
Great. Super. Okay, I think we've covered everything that I had on my list. Was there anything else you guys want to add?

00:35:16 Shelby Campbell
Nothing I can think of.

00:35:18 Jessica Dexter
Nope. I feel like I've done lots of talking.

00:35:23 KC Yost
Well, it's all about having a nice conversation, isn't it?

00:35:27 Jessica Dexter
Yeah.

00:35:28 KC Yost
Great. Yeah. Thank you, Shelby and Jessica, for taking the time to visit with us today. If anyone would like to learn more about-

00:35:35 Jessica Dexter
Thank you so much for having us.

00:35:36 KC Yost
Great. If anyone would like to learn more about the Permian Basin Association of Pipeliners, you can again find them on the web at PermianBasinAP.org. That's PermianBasinAP.org. Thanks to all of you for tuning into this episode of the Energy Pipeline Podcast, sponsored by Caterpillar Oil and Gas. If you have any questions, comments, or ideas for podcast topics, feel free to reach out to me at kc.yost@oggn.com. That's kc.yost@oggn.com. I also want to thank my producer, Anastasia Willison-Duff, and everyone at the Oil and Gas Global Network for making this podcast possible. Find out more about other OGGN podcasts at oggn.com. This is KC Yost, saying goodbye for now. Have a great week, and keep that energy flowing through the pipeline.

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